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T h e [F I R S T] M E N T I O N
of the
[C o m m o d o r e 6 4]
on an Internet Newsgroup
from: doug@sri-unix
Subject: Commodore 64 - A New
Computer
Newsgroups: net.micro
[Date: 1982-08-20 23:18:28 PST]
Any opinions on the new Commodore 64
computer. I've seen it and it looks
pretty neat.
(i) it comes with 64K of memory
standard.
(ii) in highest graphics resolution
it has 320 X 200 pixels. In lower
resolutions you can display 16 colors
simultaneously, but the number of
simultaneous colors goes down with
increased resolution.
(iii) it uses a version of sprite
graphics.
(iv) it has a cheap plug in telephone
modem (only 40 characters per row)
(v) it uses 6510 (like 6502 but with
extra I/O ports) and will have a
plug-in Z80 option.
(vi) it has a synthesizer built in
with three voices, each can play over
9 octaves in a variety of waveforms
with different attacks, decays, etc.
(vii) it lists for $595 but can be
bought for less (at American of
Madison, for example!). Magazines were
offering it for as little as $479 but
are not coming thru. It seems that
Commodore has forbidden mail order
firms from dealing in the 64.
(viii) it uses the same Microsoft
BASIC as the PET. They say they will
have Pascal for it soon.
Doug Lerner
doug@uwisc
----------------------
Message 2 in thread
From: watmath@bstempleton
Subject: Re: Commodore 64 - A New
Computer
Newsgroups: net.micro
[Date: 1982-08-21 22:43:05 PST]
Yes, I have had a Comodore 64 for
some time now. It was given to me by
Commodore people so I can put some
software up on it. Let me also say I
am impressed with the machine:
- It has a nice keyboard, well laid
out with two different control keys.
(ie. a META key if you like)
- It's real small and sits on your
lap nice. The WHOLE computer does.
- The sound synthesizer and video
chip specs are impressive.
- The colour definition is fairly
good.
- It lacks software right now. The
built in BASIC doesn't have statements
for any of the fancy hardware
features, even for getting at the
extra areas of memory. It will run all
'MAX' cartridges. The MAX is
commodore's new micro for the very low
end game market, designed to go below
even the VIC and compete with home
video games.
At $600 for 64K in the USA, I expect
we'll see a lot of these.
[Dave's Note:] You bet we saw a lot
of these! According to the Guinness
Book of World Records (2001):
MOST SUCCESSFUL COMPUTER
Approximately 30 million Commodore
64 computers were sold between the
model's launch in 1982 and its
commercial decline in 1993. The
computer contained 64K RAM, 16K
graphics, and 16K sound.
Now, Mr. Guinness obviously doesn't
know much about the C-64's specs (16K
sound?), but sums up the machine's
incredible, under-reported importance
in the history of computing.
And here we are, a full score of
years later. WHEELS makes GEOS
productivity zoom. K. Dale Sidebottom
and others are doing full-quality
desktop publishing.
Maurice Randall and others are
incorporating CD-ROM, Zip, and other
huge data storage formats. The IDE64
puts PC standard drives online for the
C-64. In fact, one can connect a PC to
a C64 and use the PC as a big hard
drive. (As one wag put it, "Which is
the tail, and which is the dog?")
The JOS/CLips operating system (now
combined as =Wings=) is offering true
multi-tasking and a Unix/Linux feel
to SuperCPUed C-64s.
And Jeri Ellsworth is building a
brand new C=1, with 21st Century bells
and whistles on a solid C-64 base.
I may be deaf, but I don't hear
things like this happening with the
Apple II (of over-reported importance
in computer history) or the TRS-80 or
the IBM PCjr. I don't see a current
monthly software digest for the 80386
machines. The hardware/software
upgrade future of the C-64 is
unbelievably exciting!
[And], LOADSTAR will not forget the
essential machine, which brought more
than the full power of 8-bit computing
to more people than any other
"personal electronic transactor!"
DMM